artists, all kinds of people came through. And we 
had typically a meeting every Monday night, which 
was wide open. The public could attend, and did. 
And we’d have a guest in, somebody who just 
happened to be in town that day, or that week. 
And of course it wasn’t just a meeting, a public 
meeting, it was part of a graduate course. It was 
one of the lectures, one of the lessons. It just 
happened that this lecture was open to the public 
and anybody could come in.

It was a great thing to do with grad students. 
They’re usually closeted in a classroom across 
campus, and they sit and take notes and go off